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LiveTextAccess. Training
for real-time intralingual subtitlers.

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This is Unit 1.
Understanding accessibility.

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Element 2. Target users and their needs.

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This video lecture shows the second part
of the interview with Peter Vanhoutte,

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a member of the Deaf-Blind community
from Belgium.

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My name is Piero Cavallo

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from the Internationale Hochschule
SDI München, in Germany.

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I have prepared this video lecture

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in collaboration with Rocío Bernabé Caro,
also from SDI München,

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and the European Federation
of Hard of Hearing, in short, EFHOH.

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On completion of the training sequence,

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you will be able to explain
the needs and preferences

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of the Deaf and Hard-of-Hearing,
Late-Deafened, and Deaf-Blind community.

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The agenda is very short.

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First, I am going to introduce
Peter Vanhoutte.

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Then, I will illustrate
the topics of the interview.

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Please note,
that the interview has two parts.

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This is the second part
of the interview.

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Finally, will end this video lecture
with a summary.

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First of all,
let me introduce you Peter Vanhoutte.

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Peter Vanhoutte is from Belgium.

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He refers to himself as deafblind.

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He has medium long, grey hair.

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He wears a shirt and a sweater.

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He is on the board of the Flemish
association of deafblind people,

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called “Anna Timmerman association”.

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He is also on the board
of the European DeafBlind Union,

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in short EDBU.

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Let me give you some information

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before watching
the second part of the video.

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In this video,
Peter recorded himself with a webcam,

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while he answers some questions
that we sent to him before.

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Peter speaks in Flemish, which is one
of the languages spoken in Belgium.

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The video has English subtitles.

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In this second part of the interview,

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Peter talks about
how deafblind people communicate.

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He explains how deafblind persons
prepare themselves for a conversation

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and the role of light, acoustics
and other environmental aspects.

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Peter also explains
the types of interpreters

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(oral, text, and sign interpreters),

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and the tools used for communication,
for instance Braille.

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Finally, he gives some suggestions
to future real-time subtitlers.

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Ok, let’s watch
the second part of the video now!

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How do deafblind people communicate?

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When you look at the form
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you will see two groups.

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Oral deafblind and deafblind
making use of signs.

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The oral deafblind
are the hard of hearing.

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With visual impairment or blindness.

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They can speak and understand
the spoken word.

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Good acoustics is important.

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Limit environmental noise
as much as possible.

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Articulating well.

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Sometimes they wear hearing aids
or they have a cochlear implant.

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They use an oral interpreter

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who interprets
in clearly spoken language.

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Or a text interpreter.

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Especially for group conversations.

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Who interprets by typing

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and the letters will appear
very big on a screen.

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Or in Braille on a Braille reader.

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The users of sign language
are mainly deaf with tunnel vision.

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They communicate using signs.

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The signs are made near the tunnel.

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So in a limited signing space
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[INAUDIBLE]

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Contrast, distance,

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lighting are important aspects.

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When it is too dark,

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and you are not able to see the signs,

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you can start to "feel" the signs.

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This is called "tactile sign language".

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I am somewhat oral
and I am able to speak.

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But I can't understand
the spoken word myself.

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I use the Lorm alphabet
to communicate.

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That is a sort of typing on the hand.

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We will perform a demo.

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Yes, that is the alphabet.

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You can do that fairly quickly.

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Almost as quick as I can type.

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It is very useful.

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There can be a lot of noise.

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There can be a lot of sunlight.

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It can also be completely dark.

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And you can use it
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You just sit next to me,

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besides each other at the table,
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on the bicycle,

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in the car,

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or you are walking, or swimming.

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It is good for conversations
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For conversations at the table

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but also for conversations outside.

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Outside it is of course difficult
to use a device.

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You are also able to use it
in the swimming pool.

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Many people don't know Lorm.

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And choose to type on a keyboard.

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That is connected
to a Braille writing device.

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Look, this is my Braille writing device.

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And you can connect a keyboard.

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There are Braille [INAUDIBLE].

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Here are small pins.

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The pins pop up
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And I am able to read
whatever is being typed.

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We also have a picture.

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You can't see for yourself
what you are typing.

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Because it is a device
without a screen.

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We are showing the picture now.

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Here you see a text interpreter at work.

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On the keyboard connected
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You can also connect the Braille
reading device to a computer.

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So that you have access to emails.

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You can also read reports.

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Also digital newspaper articles.

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It is possible to connect a small
reading device using Bluetooth.

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And an input

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for text messaging,
WhatsApp and Messenger.

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How does a deafblind person
prepare himself for a conversation?

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What is included in this?

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First of all, the deafblind person
needs to ask for an interpreter.

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Through an interpreters agency,
you can find an interpreter.

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Then you also need
to arrange for transportation.

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He needs to make sure he arrives
at the meeting place.

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And on location, he will give
his material [INAUDIBLE].

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First of all you need to find
a good place to sit.

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Without too much light,
not too much sunlight on the screen.

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You need to set up the computer.

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You need to put the settings correctly.

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Settings for the font type
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And also you have to choose the colors.

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The colors of the letters
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so you will have good contrast.

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As for the sign language interpreters,

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the deafblind sign language interpreters

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yes, they also have to find a good place

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where there is good lighting.

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There should also not be any backlight.

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The correct distance is important.

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Not to close and not too far.

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Not too close, because the signs
need to be visible in the tunnel.

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The closer, the smaller the tunnel.

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Then, someone using
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also needs a comfortable spot.

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In such a way
that he can sit comfortably.

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In such a way
he is not straining his back.

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A text interpreter can also be very
useful for a deafblind person sometimes.

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Yes, especially for the oral
deafblind people,

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especially for group conversations.

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And if you are still able
to read quickly.

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Either texts in large font size
on a big screen

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or text in Braille.

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Deafblind people who make signs
prefer communication in signs.

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There are also deafblind people
who don't know Braille.

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And who can't see enough
to be able to read quickly.

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So for that last group
a text interpreter is not very useful.

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It will go much too quickly.

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Personally, I use

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text interpreters

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at home.

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To communicate with people
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Or in order to attend
a lecture or workshop.

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During my volunteer work,
I use a lot of text interpreters.

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For meetings,

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and study days, and congresses,

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and also for attending courses,

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like a course in German.

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For the lectures during my education,

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for that I also used
a lot of text interpreters.

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Then, a last issue.

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Those are some suggestions.

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Alright,
every deafblind person is different.

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And also has different wishes.

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Important is to reserve time.

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You take your time,
that is important.

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Also making good agreements.

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Agreements concerning several issues.

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About the materials.

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Who is taking care of that?

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Is an extra screen required?

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Then also agree on the location
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So where will you meet each other?

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Some people need transportation
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So perhaps you meet at the house
of the deafblind person to pick him up.

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And maybe also
bring him home afterwards.

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Some deafblind people can get there
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If they know the environment,

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they can get there themselves.

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Some deafblind people
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to go to the toilet,

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to get coffee, or something to eat.

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Then you will discuss the font size
and preferences for color.

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Then you also have to realise,

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you are not only the ears for
a deafblind person, but also the eyes.

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So you are not just interpreting
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but also describing visually.

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You translate who is there,
what the people are doing.

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Who is speaking
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Also interesting things that happen
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You will also need to describe those
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It's important you involve the deafblind
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When the deafblind person
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make sure it is possible for him
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Never speak instead of him.

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The important is to respect his choice.

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His choice of interpreting,
his choice of seating location,

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his choice of activities.

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Also you need to pay attention
with water and other drinks.

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Close to the computer,
that is dangerous.

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When the deafblind person spills it,

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then often the devices
break down quickly.

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So make sure the deafblind person knows
there is a drink nearby.

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And where it is exactly.

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Then a last point
for after the assignment.

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Make sure the deafblind person
takes all of his belongings back home.

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So that he doesn't forget anything.

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For example his telephone on the table,

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or his cap.

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Or his white cane is still
underneath the table.

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But he doesn't think about it,
but you see it.

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Make sure that he takes
all his belongings home.

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That's it.

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I wish you a lot of success
with your education.

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Goodbye!

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The summary.

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To sum up, we can say that although
deafblindness is an impactful impairment,

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there are several ways
in which deafblind persons communicate,

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depending on the degree
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and also to the person’s preferences.

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To communicate,

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you should always consider
some other aspects

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beyond linguistic ones.

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For instance: contrast,
distance, good lighting, etc.

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Lastly, we are all unique.

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We all have our own preferences
and so do persons with deafblindness.

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So don’t be afraid to ask
what are their needs and preferences.

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The important thing is to respect
his or her choices.

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Finally, don’t forget
that you are not only the ears,

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but also the eyes
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involve and provide him or her
additional information.

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Exercises.

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The exercises for this video lecture
are in the Trainer’s Guide

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and the PowerPoint file of part 2.

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[LTA outro music]

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LTA - LiveTextAccess.

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Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona.

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SDI - Internationale Hochschule.

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Scuola Superiore
per Mediatori Linguistici.

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2DFDigital.

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The European Federation
of Hard of Hearing People - EFHOH.

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VELOTYPE.

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SUB-TI ACCESS.

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European Certification
and Qualification Association - ECQA.

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Co-funded by the Erasmus+ Programme
of the European Union.

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Erasmus+ Project:

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2018-1-DE01-KA203-004218.

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